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    Posted: 05 November 2010 at 9:43pm
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I've just joined after reading lots of great information on raising my 9 week old labradoodle. I have never owned a dog before. The problem is that he only really takes notice of my husband. If I tell him NO, (loudly), he jumps forward and barks once at me, sometimes snapping at my hand. The other morning he snapped at my 12 year old daughter's face as she pushed him away from eating the shoe she was putting on. I'm a bit nervous that this is a type of aggression? He is also very mouthy and always biting at my 9 year old. We all yelp loudly when he hurts us (which is always) but he doesn't seem to care.   I think the kids are disappointed that they can't enjoy him. Having said all that he is very welcoming and does seem to love us all. Any help greatly appreciated.    
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Sorry, but this is what puppies do, they nip, bite, play, jump etc. The pup is not being aggressive, its doing what puppies do.
But its up to you to teach what is acceptable behaviour. I would try and ignore him if he does this and dont give him any attention.
Also try and remove him from the situation, like a time out. Maybe out him in another room and ignore him for a few minutes and then bring him back in when hes quietened down.
 
Has the pup got lots of toys to play with? I would make sure it has enough to play with as their teeth will need lots to chew on when they are teething.
 
Have a look at these threads:
 
Theres no need to be afraid of a 9 week old pup?? if you are nervous this will transmit to the puppy so they will take advantage so you need to be confident and firm.
I would suggest signing up for puppy classes as soon as the pup is ready for them after their vaccinations.
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Thanks Andrea. He has lots of toys and enjoys playing with them. We do ignore him when he bites us hard, we yelp loudly and turn our back to him but he just tugs harder on our trouser legs and has ripped a couple of pairs of my sons PJ's when he pounces. We also put him in another room on his own when he pounces on the kids and draws blood, (my friend who has an Akita puppy commented that my puppies teeth are particularly sharp) There are classes in my area and once he has his last injections, I will try and enroll him.
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Andrea is right, he's just playful and doesn't realise how sharp puppy teeth are. For example I couldn't go about the house in bare feet when Mischa was little as she'd attack my toes.

You say in your original post "If I tell him NO, (loudly)". Just to say that loudly might not necessarily mean firmly. Something to think about, as I've always thought that the tone of voice is far more important than the specific words or indeed the volume. Cast your mind back to your own childhood, which was worse? when your parents were angry or when they were disappointed !!!

Don't be nevous, but do be firm and make sure to enjoy his/her puppyhood and take lots of pictures.
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He must know I've been talking about him because he's been very good today, the children even managed to play on the floor with him. Just back from taking lots of photos in the garden and he's asleep now with his new teddy.
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We are not speaking at the moment. I was stroking him on the ground when he bit my knee hard. I said No in a firm voice and he pounced and bit me on the nose. I pushed him away but it made him more exicted so I began to cry (a whimper) and then walked away. The crying seem to have upset him.
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This is just normal puppy behaviour. Let out a loud yelp when he does this and walk away from him or put him another room. He will learn that he gets no attention for this type of behavior.
 
All puppies do this, some more than others, but its not aggression, its just what puppies do.
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I agree with all of the above and they do grow out of it.  If I told my pup no to something she used to bark at me and hit me with her paw, now that she's realised all it makes me do is walk away she has stopped doing it.  With regards to toys, one of mine wasn't particularly interested in toys but I swear by kongs - when you need a few minutes peace!  Good luck and enjoy your pup.
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Hi Guys,

He's still biting but it's not as hard as before. Us yelping does not help, it excites him. Leaving the room does not work either. He really seems to think he is the boss (when the husband is not here). My son is the brunt of most of the nipping and then the barking when he tells him "No bite". He really is a head strong dog and does not like to be told No. I am now getting the 9 yr old to feed him in the hope that he will see him as a higher ranking member of the pack. He tells him sit, stay and then produces the food. When we enter the room, we speak to everyone else in the room before the dog (who is jumping around demandins attention). We also make him wait till last to exit the room, humans first. Lastly after thinking he was great on the lead, I read that I should walk first with him beside or behind me, to let him know that I am boss, started today, boy was he annoyed. I've a sore arm from holding him back. Any other tips on showing him the humands come first? We all love him to bits, just not his behaviour. Of note, my husband's family have had dogs all their lives and even he is a bit worried about the headstong behaviour.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote andrea Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 November 2010 at 6:11pm
How old is this pup now? I really would advise going to training classes.
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He will be 11 weeks old on Tuesday. He'd had his first injection at the breeders but our vet felt he should have another set as the mothers milk can sometimes affect the effectiveness of the vaccine (1st vaccination at 6 1/2 weeks)so he will now be getting his last injection tomorrow and then can be socialised a bit more and enrolled in classes.
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They have to have a 2nd set regardless.
 
At 11 weeks hes not going to be used to walking on the lead properly. It takes weeks to learn how to walk on the lead properly so you need to be patient.
It comes across that you are expecting a little bit too much of this pup, hes still very very young and still learning and trying to take everything in so give him a chance.
 
Puppies nip and bite like that for a long time bfore they realise its not allowed so please just be consistant with him and keep correcting him, he will eventually learn whats allowed and not. The behaviour you are describing is normal puppy behaviour, they all do it, so yours is no different.
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This will be his third set of injections and thankfully he can then be introduced to the world. Maybe when we can go to public places like the park, we can work off some of his huge energy. How long can I walk an 11 week old for, bearing in mind he's a big, energetic puppy?
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He would only have had parvo,,,there are two more lots to have yet. Everything is soso normal he wont grow out of this for a long while yet and only with persistance as Andrea said. He should have constant supervision with the children and unless you are able to do that you wont have immediate effects. Use a crate when he is not supervised to keep him and kids separate.
The morning howl is driving me mad!
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The rule is 5 mins per month of age per day. So at 11 weeks hes nearly 3 months so thats 15 mins of a walk per day.
You cannot walk them too much as their joints and bones are developing and you risk damaging these if they too long a walk when they are young.
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My retriever was much more nippy than my Bernense, not sure if it's the breed or if she has him to play with and he's taught her not to nip.  He probably kept it up especially while playing until he was about 5 or 6 months old - but could have been my fault for playing with him on the floor.  I honestly think it's all perfectly natural and he's just a baby.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Marymac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 January 2011 at 12:05am
Hi guys, time for an update. Can't imagine our family without Hugo now. He's just turned 4 months and is is a big bouncing ball of fun and love. He still mouths us, but he just can't control his excitement. He is great on the lead until we meet people or dogs and then he wants to rush over and play with everyone. My son and the dog get on great now but he continues on occasion to jump up, grab on with his mouth and rips my poor son's coat. The coat use to be red but it now has white polka dots of stuffing falling out all over it. After a long wait, we're starting our Puppy Training Classes on 11th January. Looking forward to it.   
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