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    Posted: 10 April 2011 at 9:52am

My friend calls three of my dogs "big dogs".  I think they are mid sized dogs.  They are about 17 inches to the should and weigh between 13 - 18 kg.   Since we got our greyhound we now refer to them as the smallies.

I got into quite a heated (albeit) mad debate about what constitutes a big dog.    I suspose its all about perspective compared to a hound my dogs are small but if you are used to jrt xs then they are big.  
 
So Im wondering what do you, doggy people, consider to be a big or small dog?
 
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I'd say your dogs would be medium given those measurements.  People usually call my huskies big dogs, but they are officially a medium sized breed.
 
I'd say spaniels, labs, collies etc, that kind of size is medium, bigger than that I'd say they are a big dog.

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To me a big dog is the likes of a rottie, great dane, saint bernard, most of the working type or mastiff type breeds. I wouldnt even call a labrador a big dog.
How could they say a dog at your dogs weight is a big dog is strange. My rottie is 50kg, now that would be a big dog.
Maybe they havent come into contact with many dogs much bigger than yours and so think yours are big?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dee o gee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 April 2011 at 3:11pm
Im used to Charlie (about 7kg) so Id call anything from a big lab x up a big dog, so Id say anything 25-30kg up constitutes a big dog to me, but then again Id call anything 45kg+ a huge/giant dog! I suppose it's what your used to, it would be interesting to hear what tiny chihuahua or yorkie owners would constitute big dogs?
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if you google your pet size and weight am sure some where on google will tell you if your dog medium /large or small size and there proper weight
Am suprised you dont know your own dogs size people usually know what there dog going to turn out to be before buying the dog even if you got your dog from a rescuse centre they usually tell you the size of the dog or how big its going to be fully grown.
if you google the animal breed you beable to find out all about the dog and what size there will be when fully grown or what size they should be when grown                 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jake owner Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 April 2011 at 4:27pm
simple to sort this disagrement out just google yor dog's breed and you should get the history of the breed and it should tell youwhat size your dog will be full grown or what ever
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there are a few size jack russels
parson terrior Classified as a jr is the large built/ breed of them with the longer legs

miniture jack russels these are the small type dogs

standard jack russells small/to meduium built

all jack russels are big dogs in small dog bodys there are like a rottie there deffintally not like a little lap dog what like to be carryied around.
jrs make brillient watch dogs due to there aggression there will do the same as a large dog like I said big dogs in little dogs bodys.
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Originally posted by jake owner jake owner wrote:

if you google your pet size and weight am sure some where on google will tell you if your dog medium /large or small size and there proper weight
Am suprised you dont know your own dogs size people usually know what there dog going to turn out to be before buying the dog even if you got your dog from a rescuse centre they usually tell you the size of the dog or how big its going to be fully grown.
if you google the animal breed you beable to find out all about the dog and what size there will be when fully grown or what size they should be when grown                 
 
HUH??Confused
 
I dont understand your post? We do know our own dogs size thank you, the poster was enquiring as a query because they own smaller dogs, not big ones but someone they know commented on theirs saying they were big when they arent compared to big dogs like rottweilers, saint bernards etc.
 
Theres no disagreement at all, its a discussion on peoples opion on what a big dog constitutes.
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Originally posted by jake owner jake owner wrote:

if you google your pet size and weight am sure some where on google will tell you if your dog medium /large or small size and there proper weight
Am suprised you dont know your own dogs size people usually know what there dog going to turn out to be before buying the dog even if you got your dog from a rescuse centre they usually tell you the size of the dog or how big its going to be fully grown.   
 
 
Jake owner my dogs are 10 years old and are cross breds so they aint going to grow any more (unless they shrink).   Big smileI d idnt buy my dogs, a lot of people dont,  I got them from my neighbour whose bitch had a litter of pups.  I took the size of the bitch as a rough indication as to what size they would be and then added a bit cos I figured the daddy was a wandering setter cross.  So I would say I had a fair idea of what I was getting.  Btw not even rescues can tell what size pups will grow to if they dont know parentage its all their best guess.
 
To all else - thank you.  Im not going mad.  I would  call  great danes, Saints etc giant and then put rotties and labs in the big range - though it can depend on the dog.  I suppose its a bit like that Father Ted episode where they do small and far far away Smile
 
 
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Hmmm ... confused by the total Myxomatosis of some posters? Perhaps posters are using some 'phone logic to post ... guess I really don't understand a word of it!Unhappy

How and ever ... in between not knowing what size a particular progeny is going to be you do have certain indicating markers ... the size of the bitch and the size of the sire, as well as any previous litters the may have had. Sound OK, so far ... BUT you can NEVER know that a particular "pairing" is going to give you the desired (what you as a Breeder) size.

It totally pisses me off with so many people wanting "small" or "miniature" Yorkshire Terriers. Get real! They ARE a freak of nature and as a responsible breeder you can NEVER guarantee the "size" of ANY dog breed to any degree of certainty.

Back to the OP question ...

1. Chihuahuas, Yorkies, Pugs, Bichon Frise, JRT (oops, putting my foot in it) - SMALL
2. Collies, Boxers, Spaniels, Staffies, Dobermann, Retrievers (all of 'em) - MEDIUM
3. Great Dane, Newfoundland, Rottweiler, Irish Wolfhound - BIG

This isn't an exhaustive list (obviously) and it is NOT down to the "eye of the beholder" or some arbitrary Kennel Club Classification ... it's quite simply down to how much they weigh and how BIG they are. It's not subjective nor open to "discussion" ... it's too f**king obvious to have an argument about?Ermm

Or, am I missing something Big smile



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Interestingly though Peter, I think golden retrievers are classed as a big dog, not medium.  An adult male GR would be quite a large dog.  Personally, I'd put Danes, Newfies etc as Giants, but Rotties, malamutes etc as big.
 
So yeah, there is room for argumentTongueWink


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Ahhh ... So now we have a new class ... "f**king Enormous"?

I know my system will clean the swear words ... I mean, yes, a Retriever can become an enormous lump; a lovely Kleenex puppy turns out to eat you out of house and home ... a Husky needs a lot of calories to keep going?

But ...
Originally posted by bramble bramble wrote:

So yeah, there is room for argumentTongueWink
Huge room!

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Originally posted by Peter Banks Peter Banks wrote:

Ahhh ... So now we have a new class ... "f**king Enormous"?

I know my system will clean the swear words ... I mean, yes, a Retriever can become an enormous lump; a lovely Kleenex puppy turns out to eat you out of house and home ... a Husky needs a lot of calories to keep going?

But ...
Originally posted by bramble bramble wrote:

So yeah, there is room for argumentTongueWink
Huge room!
 
Surprisingly, no, they are very efficient eaters, one of my dogs only eats every 2nd day - not because I don't feed him, but because thats all he wants.  It is why most 'professional' mushers use crossbreeds for races such as the Iditarod, siberian huskies always keep something in reserve just in case they don't get any food the next day, they don't give 100%.  Huskies need a lot less food than most people think they do.  Which I guess is probably why its easy to make them overweight.

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Originally posted by Peter Banks Peter Banks wrote:

it's too f**king obvious to have an argument about?Ermm

Or, am I missing something Big smile
 
Oh I wish you were there when I have was the arguement with my friend.  LOL
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Ha Ha I love the debates on ID....
I would class my GR as medium, he's about 32kgs, everyone tells me by Bernese is going to be huge!!  She's 9 months and 42 kgs, not too chunky just big boned :) again, I would class her as medium to biggish, my old neighbour has a great dane and a friend has a newfie, to me they are huge!
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Originally posted by Peter Banks Peter Banks wrote:

 
Ahhh ... So now we have a new class ... "f**king Enormous"?

 
LOL i guess Wilson falls into this category at 37inches tall and 14stone in weight (88-90kgs) Shocked
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LOL Pepper :),,,he certainly is a big boy....and a very well mannerd one though!

Love the expression Peter LOL LOL LOL LOL
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Having owned Great Danes in the past I would say they were big dogs, then I got a couple of labs who by comparison were a lot smaller but after a while the Danes did not seem so big, I suppose you just get used to the size. For big dogs they could curl up quite small into an arm chair. I now no longer have Danes but still have the labs and cocker Spaniels, who compared to the Labs are quite small. Its all in the perspective I think and of course how much room they take up on the sofa.

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