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Susanna
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Topic: Found dead greyhoundPosted: 11 December 2009 at 1:08pm |
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Hi guys,
I wasn't sure if I should be posting this in the Found-section, frankly it felt too cruel. I wanted to share this anyway, it's too distressing. This morning when out jogging, I came across a dead greyhound by the road. First I thought it must have been hit by a car, but it was pretty obvious pretty quickly it had been dumped. It was too deep in the ditch, and there were no obvious signs of injury, nothing what you would expect from a collision with a car. The most disturbing thing though was the ears - they'd been cut clean off. I've been checking the internet for lost dogs, but so far I've found nothing even remotely resembling this dog. I did come across a news clip about a (live) greyhound that was found with its ears cut off - apparently they are all earmarked (tattoo?) and to cut the ears off of a greyhound is to remove all traces of identity/owner. The road where I go jogging is a quiet backroad, and people tend to dump their rubbish there all the time. I wish I wouldn't have seen this though. It was too much. The dog was a dark grey bitch, with some white on the chest and front paws. No collar, obviously. No photos either, didn't feel like snapping any. To Moderators, feel free to move this to the Found section if you feel that would be more appropriate. Susanna |
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Rika
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Posted: 11 December 2009 at 1:54pm |
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I am lost for words as always when I hear or read about such cruelty.
Ears cut off ... there are sooo many resuces especially for Greyhounds, I can not understand that.
Susi, did you inform the Gardai and/or dog warden?
Rest in Peace little brave girl, there is no more pain over the rainbow.
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Susanna
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Posted: 11 December 2009 at 2:52pm |
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Couldn't get to the dog warden anymore, they don't take calls after 11.30am, but I'll pop into the Gardai later on today. I don't know what they would make of it, but to me it amounts to animal cruelty. It was hard to say how the dog got killed, but I only hope it was dead when they cut the ears..
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dee o gee
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Posted: 11 December 2009 at 2:54pm |
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RIP poor girl at least shes happy and free now.
As rika has said have you contacted the dog warden/gardai or the irish greyhound board, not sure if they could do something about it or if they would even care about it? Its a longshot but could she be microchipped?
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Bartlett
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Posted: 11 December 2009 at 5:05pm |
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What a dreadful thing to do and come across. You are right the ears are removed so that the dog cant be traced by its tatoos. Its unlikely to be microchiped . I think that if you can contact the greyhound board they may be able to offer a DNA trace on the dog - of course that means you have to get samples which wouldnt be a pleasant task.
The contact in the Irish Greyhound Board is Barry Coleman, Welfare Officer.
Bad luck to sick people who left a dog like that
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Socket
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Posted: 11 December 2009 at 6:55pm |
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This is a very common occurence unfortunately
. Loads of Greys are dumped after having their ears hacked off to remove ID. It happens a lot in Limerick, and generally in most counties that have a racing stadium. The Gardai won't do a thing about it- you'd be wasting your time reporting it. You will have to tell the County Council though, as they're responsible for removing the body, as they are with 'roadkill'.These dogs are not pets to those owners- they're a commodity that needs to be disposed of if it stops making money for the owner. Bringing it to a vet to be pts requires caring and compassion, and a willingness to part with some money. Too much pointless work for some Grey owners. Much easier to chop off the ears and fling the dog out of the car somewhere. A lot are found very much alive, and in extreme pain, wandering the roads trying to find 'home'. It's a reality far more common than most people are aware of. |
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Canine81
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Posted: 11 December 2009 at 7:19pm |
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That is really horrendous. I feel so sorry for those poor poor dogs. I hope those involved have nothing but bad luck. The dogs are nothing but walking wallets to them and they dont give a damn. And the legislation here is so laughable that they can continue to do it.
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bramble
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Posted: 11 December 2009 at 8:58pm |
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Unfortunately Socket is right, this is a very common occurrence.
Poor dog, what did she ever do to deserve this, except be born the wrong breed.
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SixStar
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Posted: 11 December 2009 at 9:52pm |
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The poor baby
God, looking at my three curled up on the floor now, to think they might have met that fate makes me sick to the pit of my stomach
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elsa
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Posted: 11 December 2009 at 10:44pm |
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omg...poor poor dog
i hope those b#######s have no luck
unbelievable what some people do...beyond belief
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Posted: 12 December 2009 at 12:00am |
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cadagio
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Posted: 12 December 2009 at 1:11am |
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Please contact Bord Na Gcon as well they may have dna on this dog and be able to trace the owner I know they did try in one other instance they do not like bad publicity and this is what they dread.
Also if you could contact the local paper they might just do and article about it.
I have never gone to a night at the dogs and when they were organised as work outings I told people why I would not go. Hubby went once and told everyone there how many greyhounds die each year and about them being mutilated and dumped especially when they were looking at the dogs and he said oh the poor dog that lost would probably be pts if it was lucky. Guess what the organiser never booked a night at the dogs again and they used to go every year.
So maybe if a works outing is organised more of us should go and while people are looking at the dogs pass comment like that is one of the lucky ones 25000 do not make it to their first birthday and so on when you are looking at an animal in the flesh it is harder to digest that information.
Who ever did this to the poor dog I hope they rot in hell
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Susanna
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Posted: 12 December 2009 at 12:13pm |
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I never knew this sort of thing happened. What if they were microchipped, would they be chopping a chunk off its neck? Unbelievable.
This story fell flat, as I went to check the roadside before calling the Gardai the dog was gone. Either somebody got to the Council before me and they cleared it off, or it was one of the neighbours. Not good for the neighbourhood, I suppose I started to think it was all a bad dream or my disturbed imagination. If only. Now I'm sorry I didn't go back with the camera straight away - talk about bad publicity for the industry ![]() I've always thought that once I have more space I'll gather round a few greys since I love these dogs. I work with thoroughbred horses (another industry that has lot to answer for), so it must be something to do with their athletism. They are amazing dogs all the same. Now I'm thinking how many could I save. Ridiculous really, to save half a dozen won't make much difference in an industry that treats tens of thousands like they were rubbish. Edited by Susanna - 12 December 2009 at 2:28pm |
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Bartlett
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Posted: 12 December 2009 at 4:41pm |
To paraphrase Sockets old line - it makes a huge difference to those that are saved.
I have to confess that I have gone greyhound racing on a number of occasions and really enjoyed the evening. OH was also involved in a syndicate at one stage.
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Posted: 16 December 2009 at 5:50pm |
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Unfortunately these animals are though of in terms of monetary value dogs have no special standing under the law anymore than livestock and even if who ever dumped this poor dog was caught under the law all thay could be prosecuted for is littering
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PAWS
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Posted: 02 March 2010 at 11:06am |
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I only saw this today when someone sent it to me. I emailed the welfare officer in IGB and this is his reply.
Good morning all,
Why is it that I am only hearing about this now. This should have been reported to me on December 11th when the greyhounds body was first spotted.
I would be extremely grateful if you could take a bit of time to go onto these forums and inform all forum members that, if in the future, they come accross of any cases of cruelty or neglect towards greyhounds they need to contact me immediately so that an investigation can be initiated. Any of the contact details below can be used.
Thanks in advance.
Kind Regards
Barry Coleman Welfare & Racing Operations Support Manager Irish Greyhound Board 104 Henry Street Limerick Tel: +353 86 8030355 Edited by PAWS - 02 March 2010 at 11:07am |
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Pepper
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Posted: 02 March 2010 at 11:38am |
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i know its no use to the case in hand but at least we now have a contact should anyone ever come across another situation like this!!!
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Muireann
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Posted: 02 March 2010 at 12:09pm |
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Only reading this now, I feel physically sick!
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Socket
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Posted: 02 March 2010 at 3:55pm |
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I was speaking with a Grey owner a bit after the OP posted....this
particular guy is a very conscientious and responsible Grey owner- he
races his dogs but he takes damn good care of them. In his opinion, the
owners who dump their Greys when they're of no more use, are a very small
fraction of the Grey owning community in Ireland, and that Bord na Gcon
hugely disapproves of disposal like that and would make it their
mission to hunt down the owner and prosecute him.
Of course, I would have loved to believe that was completely true, and maybe it is, (the reply from Barry Coleman does reflect that) but the cynic in me wondered why we're not hearing about the countless prosecutions, sentencing and fines all over the news, and why ear hacking still happens. I realise it's less common than it was a few years ago, but it's still a common occurence. Leaving out the hacking of ears, you only have to look at how many Greys are in care in both the Clare and Limerick Animal Welfare groups. Greys that were found starving and emaciated, scabby, mangey, scarred, and terrified. Passive cruelty is as much a disgusting act of cruelty as hacking off ears.....where are the consequences for the owners? What exactly is Bord na Gcon doing about it??? |
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Posted: 02 March 2010 at 5:26pm |
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Ears gone to remove the tattoos, plain damn nasty. hell if you don't want to give your dead dogs a dignified send off you can just drop them in to any knackers yard and they'll be more than happy to dispose of them, the closest yard to me even has a bin outside the gate for small animals. Certainly wouldn't be my choice, but at least it's legal and saves some poor passerby finding them.
It isn't just greyhounds either, there was a husky found near me a few days ago, dumped in with household rubbish. People who do this are just plain filth, not only do them not care about their dogs but them have no regard for the people who have to live in their chosen dumping ground either. Illegal dumping makes my blood boil and when there's a poor dog included we're approaching volcano territory ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() . |
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Posted: 02 March 2010 at 6:59pm |
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I have added Barry Coleman's details to the Service/Welfare database on the main ID site.
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Greyhound Girl
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Posted: 03 March 2010 at 2:29pm |
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[QUOTE=PAWS]I only saw this today when someone sent it to me. I emailed the welfare officer in IGB and this is his reply.
Good morning all,
Why is it that I am only hearing about this now. This should have been reported to me on December 11th when the greyhounds body was first spotted.
I would be extremely grateful if you could take a bit of time to go onto these forums and inform all forum members that, if in the future, they come accross of any cases of cruelty or neglect towards greyhounds they need to contact me immediately so that an investigation can be initiated. Any of the contact details below can be used.
Thanks in advance.
Kind Regards
Barry Coleman Welfare & Racing Operations Support Manager Irish Greyhound Board 104 Henry Street Limerick Tel: +353 86 8030355 |
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Greyhound Girl
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Posted: 03 March 2010 at 2:33pm |
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I should have said that I had previously e-mailed Barry for some stuff re welfare to put in a staff magazine. When I started asking him about outcomes of prosecutions etc and highlighting some recent cases of cruelty he went quiet and ignored my last e-mail. Im guessing it was getting too messy and he couldnt defend the actions of the 'owners.'
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